According to Iraqis, Obama Will Change Nothing in Iraq

Published in Middle-East-Online
(Iraq) on 22 January 2009
by Sallam Faraj (link to originallink to original)
Translated from by Mohsen Shawarby. Edited by .

Edited by Louis Standish

The new U.S. president’s pledge to address the Iraq issue does not raise much hope for the Iraqis who regard it as mere talk.

Many Iraqis doubt the ability of the new U.S. president, Barack Obama, to achieve radical change in the conditions of their country, expressing the conviction that the U.S. policy towards Iraq will remain the same.

Sadeq Abbas (52 years old, owner of a currency exchange store in central Baghdad): "The American administration's policy will remain the same. A change in presidents alters nothing."

Abbas added that "The Americans will stay in Iraq for decades. This fact will not change even when they change presidents."

Ali Kamel (26 years old, owner of a cellular phone store in central Baghdad): “A change in U.S. presidents is a change in name only. The White House's policy remains the same." While inspecting one of the telephones behind his table, Ali added, "The security situation in Iraq will not get better because they (the Americans) will remain in power to justify their presence in our country."

A spokesman for the U.S. Department of Defense announced last Thursday that the Pentagon is preparing a number of options for the president, including a plan to withdraw troops from Iraq within 16 months, something promised during his election campaign.

He added: "We want to be ready to make some offers to the president, including withdrawal in 16 months. Certainly, we would not provide any options without presenting the risk involved."

The commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, Raymond Odierno, recommended keeping a large number of troops in the country for the current year, for fear of losing the gains made on the security front.

Hiwa Gafoor Alborznge (46 years old, a Kurdish businessman from Kirkuk, 255 km north of Baghdad): "Obama will pay significantly for supporting Iraq’s reconstruction."

He adds that "Obama’s policy will encourage Iraqis to forget their cast differences," expressing his belief that Iraq will shift away from the country’s division in the next phase, a reference to setup attempts in the northern and southern provinces.

Hoda Kazim (45 years old): "America will not leave Iraq and withdraw its troops even if Obama tried to do something about the situation in this country.” However, she expressed the hope that "Obama’s policy will be better than George W. Bush’s.” While carrying shopping bags at Mary Karradat in central Baghdad, the lady added that "The security situation still needs more stability." Kazim condemned "the Iraqi politicians who are more concerned with power then with national interests.”

Abu Haidar (41 years old, owner of a shop in Sadr City in the east): "Obama will not fulfill his promises to withdraw troops and change American policy in Iraq."

Karim Ahmed (39 years old, a fish vendor on Abu Naas street, central Baghdad): "Obama will not change U.S. policy." As he stands in front of a fish cart, he added, "American leaders and even the Iraqis are not looking for anything but their own political interests."

A policeman, who declined to be named while he was on patrol in central Baghdad, said "The U.S. presidents all walk the same line, and Obama will not change anything." He adds that "Obama will not be able to fulfill his promises, and the Americans will not let go of Iraq's oil, which has cost them a lot."

The cleric Mohammed Al-Ardi (in his forties, from city of Najaf): "We believe that American policy would not be affected by the change in U.S. leaders." However, he expressed hope in saying that "We are optimistic about the arrival of President Obama because of his election promise to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq. This is the hope for all Iraqis."

Under the security agreement signed between Iraq and the United States, the U.S. must withdraw its troops from Iraq by the end of 2011. Presently, there are 142,000 soldiers in Iraq.


العراقيون: أوباما لن يغير شيئا في العراق

تعهدات الرئيس الاميركي الجديد بمعالجة ملف العراق لا تثير امل العراقيين الذين يعتبرونها مجرد وعود.
ميدل ايست اونلاين
بغداد – من سلام فرج
يبدي عدد من العراقيين شكوكا حيال قدرة الرئيس الاميركي الجديد باراك اوباما على تحقيق تغيير جذري في اوضاع بلادهم معبرين عن قناعتهم بان السياسة الاميركية حيال العراق ستبقى على حالها.
ويقول صادق عباس (52 عاما) صاحب محل للصرافة وسط بغداد، ان "سياسة الادارة الاميركية تبقى ذاتها، فتغيير الرؤساء لن يغير شيئا في الامور الاخرى".
ويضيف عباس ان "الاميركيين سيبقون في العراق لعشرات السنين، وهو امر لن يتغير حتى لو تغير الرئيس الاميركي".
بدوره، يقول علي كامل (26 عاما) صاحب محل للهواتف النقالة في شارع السعدون، وسط بغداد، ان "تغيير الرؤساء الاميركيين لا يمثل سوى تغيير اسماء لكن سياسة البيت الابيض تبقى ذاتها ولا تتغير".
ويضيف كامل بينما كان يتفحص احد اجهزة الهاتف خلف طاولته، ان "الاوضاع الامنية في العراق لن تتغير لانهم (الاميركيون) سيبقون عليها لتبرير وجودهم في بلادنا".
وكان متحدث باسم وزارة الدفاع الاميركية اعلن الخميس الماضي ان البنتاغون يعد خيارات عدة للرئيس المنتخب بينها خطة لسحب القوات من العراق خلال 16 شهرا كما وعد خلال حملته الانتخابية.
واضاف "نريد ان نكون مستعدين لنعرض على الرئيس المقبل مجموعة من الخيارات من بينها انسحاب خلال 16 شهرا (...) بالتأكيد لن يقدم اي خيار بدون المجازفة التي ينطوي عليها".
وكان قائد القوات الاميركية في العراق ريموند اوديرنو اوصى بابقاء قوة كبيرة في العراق، على الاقل خلال السنة الحالية، خوفا من فقدان المكاسب التي تحققت على الصعيد الامني في هذا البلد.
ويقول هيوا غفور البرزنجي (46 عاما) وهو رجل اعمال كردي من كركوك (255 كلم شمال بغداد) ان "تولي اوباما سيساهم بشكل كبير في دعم العراق واعادة البناء".
ويضيف ان "سياسة اوباما ستشجع على الغاء الفوارق بين العراقيين" معربا عن اعتقاده بان "المرحلة المقبلة ستبعد العراق جدا عن التقسيم" في اشارة الى محاولات تشكيل اقاليم في الشمال والجنوب.
من جهتها، قالت هدى كاظم (45 عاما) ان "اميركا لن تغادر العراق ولن تسحب قواتها حتى لو حاول اوباما ان يفعل شيئا حيال الاوضاع" في هذا البلد.
ومع ذلك، اعربت عن املها في ان تكون "سياسة اوباما افضل من سياسة الرئيس جورج بوش".
واضافت السيدة بينما كانت تحمل اكياسا وسط سوق كرادة مريم في بغداد ان "الاوضاع الامنية ما تزال بحاجة الى مزيد من الاستقرار".
ونددت كاظم ب "الساسة العراقيين الذين تهمهم السلطة" اكثر من مصالح البلاد.
بدوره، يرى ابو حيدر (41 عاما) صاحب محل تجاري في مدينة الصدر (شرق) "اوباما لن يفي بوعوده حول سحب القوات وتغيير السياسة الاميركية في العراق".
اما كريم احمد (39 عاما) بائع السمك في شارع ابو نؤاس (وسط) فيؤكد ان "اوباما لن يغير شيئا من السياسة الاميركية".
ويضيف اثناء وقوفه امام عربة الاسماك ان "القادة الاميركيين وحتى العراقيين، لا يبحثون عن شيء سوى مصالحهم السياسية".
ويقول احد عناصر الشرطة رافضا كشف اسمه، بينما كان ضمن دورية وسط بغداد، ان "رؤساء الولايات المتحدة يسيرون على الطريق ذاته، لن يغير اوباما شيئا يذكر".
ويضيف ان "اوباما لن يستطيع الوفي بوعوده ولن يترك الاميركيون النفط العراقي الذي بذلوا الكثير للوصول اليه".
بدوره يقول رجل الدين محمد العارضي وهو في الاربعينات من مدينة النجف (جنوب) "نعتقد ان السياسة العامة الاميركية لن تتأثر بتغيير الرؤساء".
لكنه اعرب عن امله قائلا "لكننا، نأمل خيرا من وصول الديمقراطي اوباما كونه وعد حسبما اعلن في برنامجه الانتخابي، بانه سيسحب القوات الاميركية من العراق وهذا طموح لكل العراقيين".
وتنص الاتفاقية الامنية الموقعة بين العراق والولايات المتحدة على انسحاب القوات الاميركية من العراق في نهاية 2011.
وينتشر 142 الف جندي اميركي في العراق حاليا.

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  1. your country has 40 years of oil reserves.

    we americans are not about to leave that.

    why do you think we invaded?

    it had nothing to do with giving you freedom.

    freedom is the last thing we want for your country.

    I have not heard one american voice concern over the suffering or displacement of the iraqi people.

    what they are concerned about is all the money spent in your country and economic decline in their country ie america.

    with freedom you would kick us out and we would lose your oil reserves. we will keep your government locked up behind the green zone to protect them.

    they are american puppets. you know that americans dont.

    when it comes to world affairs americans are a very dumbed down society. the world to we americans is america.

    over 90 per cent of americans did not even know who the viet cong were during the vietnam war. how is that for dumbed down.

    we killed over one million vietnamese and did not bat an eye for the vietnamese. sure their were protests but that was over the draft of the college students and the rich kids.

    america is a capitalist country and capitalism is about wealth generation not freedom.

    few americans understand the ills of capitalism and how it leads to imperialism that leads to wars for profits that leads to suffering in third world countries.

    we are there to steal your oil get over it. it is the american way. look around the world.

    bush was an oil man. wait until you see how the oil companies in the world will fill his bank account [for his speaking fees :-)]now that he is out of office.

    and how much money they will donate to his library at a christian college. bush jr library at a christian college! how is that for the christian way of life?

    hundreds of thousands of iraqis killed from an illegal invasion and occupation and a christian college wants his library.

    he gave the oil companies a golden goose. iraq oil fields.

    big bucks now for bush. that is how capitalism works. are you sure you want our brand of capitalism?